Shabbat will heal the Jews... I hope.

>Invite them over for shabbos and ask them were thier hatred stems from. Ah yes, Nich'nas Cholent Yatza Sod.......... Get real, Daganev. You really believe that the secular and religious camps can settle and make peace over a Shabbos meal???? lakewood yid | 08.14.06 - 8:43 pm | #

>Get real, Daganev. You really believe that the secular and religious camps can settle and make peace over a Shabbos meal???? Yes, I have seen it happen. That is why I love Irvine so much. We had a chabad rabbi who stole and embezzled funds, in about 1989. It wasn't untill 1997 when the non religious in the community were willing to accept the MO shul into the community and make changes to the JCC (such as keeping the kitchen closed on Shabbat) A few years later, they were willing to higher Orthodox rabbis as teachers into the community day school. All because my parents, and other people in the community invited them over for Shabbos meals despite of and sometiems because of the political differences. I know this, because that is what the people said made the difference. However, my family never makes Chulent, so maybe that is why it worked :P Daganev | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 9:14 pm | #

LY- Maybe they can make peace (or at least meet halfway) over acts of chesed and tzedaka instead? It is commitment to principles such as this that unite the real ideological parties on the right and left- both Agudah, for example, and Meretz-Yachad care about Israelis going hungry. Friar Yid | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 9:20 pm | #

>Yes, I have seen it happen. That is why I love Irvine so much. Yoy, we are talking about "die-hard" Israelies, not about the mild mannered of Irvine. lakewood yid | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 9:25 pm | #

>LY- Maybe they can make peace (or at least meet halfway) over acts of chesed and tzedaka instead? Absolutely. No more cutting the funds of the Bnei Torah. (has it ever been restored? How about restoring it??) lakewood yid | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 9:28 pm | #

>Yes, I have seen it happen. That is why I love Irvine so much. Yoy, we are talking about "die-hard" Israelies, not about the mild mannered of Irvine. So, the man who lives next door to my fiance lost a brother in the 67 war. He currently has a sign outside his window that reads. Support our troops, end all wars. I was good friends with his daughter growing up, who is now a berkley nut (her words not mine):P Across the streat from me, are the parents of one of my best friends, who currently lives in Israel, and talks about how Kadima is a bunch of leftwing fanatics. The family is from Israel, they are about as politically right in Israel as you can get. Thier daughter just married a charedi guy in Bnei'Brak. They get along just fine when they are forced together. Although, they have probably only talked about three times that I know of. I have israeli die hards on both sides living within 500 yards of me. I bet you, if the religious legistlators invited the non religious over for shabbos, and refused to "talk shop" there would be a lot less problems. Daganev | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 9:35 pm | #

>I bet you, if the religious legistlators invited the non religious over for shabbos, and refused to "talk shop" there would be a lot less problems. I'm on. Now how are we going to know who will win the bet? lakewood yid | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 9:38 pm | #

>LY- Maybe they can make peace (or at least meet halfway) over acts of chesed and tzedaka instead? Absolutely. No more cutting the funds of the Bnei Torah. (has it ever been restored? How about restoring it??) I am curious about the facts here, because in California. The teacher's unions accused Arnold of cutting education funds, when in reality he didn't. He denied them an extension of funds. Also have to look at what the funds went to instead. In the past two weaks I have read blogs by Jews saying that Israel is trying to remove Judaism, and I have read blogs that say Israel is becomming a theocracy. I have a funny suspicion the truth is in the middle somewhere. Daganev | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 9:38 pm | #

>I'm on. Now how are we going to know who will win the bet? Start by using your blog to push Rabbis to invite politicans over for shabbos and see what happens? Daganev | Homepage | 08.14.06 - 9:39 pm | #

The preceding was a comment discussion I hade with Lakewood Yid, over at DovBear's blog.

I am Daganev. Lets see what happens. Perhaps Shabbos will indeed save the Jews, just as the Jews save Shabbos.